My original
Cradle and Convert post made a few very modest arguments: a) that dividing Orthodox Christians into "convert" and "cradle/ethnic" camps is unnecessarily divisive; b) that the terms themselves are misleading (at some point one stops being simply a convert; none of us are ethnic-neutral); and c) that there isn't an American Orthodoxy in the same sense that there is a Greek or Russian Orthodoxy. None of these points seemed particularly radical or controversial as I was making them. Much of the ensuing discussion, as well as my
subsequent posts, has had to do with the practical implications of these modest theses, and has grown rather contentious at times. Here are a couple of thoughts that have occurred to me while reading comments:
1)
Convert = former Protestant. In all recent discussion on this theme, both on this blog and others, it's been taken for granted that "convert" means "former Protestant" (or, more specifically, former Evangelical Protestant); therefore, all potential converts are themselves Protestants. Hence the conclusion that Orthodoxy needs to be packaged and advertised to appeal to Evangelicals. This overlooks that people convert to Orthodoxy from a wide range of different denominations and religions; that not all Protestants are Evangelicals (what do High Church Anglicans and snake-handlers really have in common?); and that the majority of Americans are in fact
not Evangelical Protestants. Is it really wise, then, to advertise Orthodoxy as an ancient form of proto-Evangelicalism? (Recall the dust jacket of the OSB: "Prior to the Reformation of the 16th century, the great voices of the historic Church were...")
2)
Convert vs. Convert. Why is it that, if two "converts" disagree about something, their arguments necessarily cancel each other out? If you don't want your own arguments dismissed because you're a "convert," then don't dismiss others' arguments for the same reason. If you're Orthodox, treat both yourself and others as Orthodox. As I keep repeating, at some point one stops being simply a convert; if one thinks of oneself first and foremost as a "former Protestant," then something is wrong.
3)
Quantifying Evangelicalism. It's been suggested a number of times, here and elsewhere, that the success of mission can be judged quantitatively. Those who convert more people "win," and Orthodoxy in America owes its continued existence to the conversion of Protestants. This sounds to me like a revival-meeting standard: the more souls one "saves," the better.
4)
False dichotomies: convert or cradle; external piety or internal belief; ethnic or non-ethnic; diaspora or mission; evangelicalism or guardianship; Tradition or tradition.